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, obama says my plan is that if you make less than $200,000 you'll see no income tax increase next year, so obama's new commitment is only the income tax, only for one year. >> right. >> and, of course, we're all paying higher taxes in january because of obama care. >> okay. >> taxes on capital gains. >> let me ask you this though, grover. i can imagine you wear it as a badge of honor to this the senate majority leader on the floor of the senate invoking your name in frustration because there are people on the republican side who are, you know, following your -- your lead to not raise taxes, but let's face it. you were in -- you were imposing this no higher tax in a different era, at a different time, in a different part of the economic cycle. aren't we at a point now economically where there has to be some mechanism of revenue raising to try and solve the debt crisis? yes, i know you're going to talk about spending cuts. that's important as well, but you've got to balance the budget in some way, and it's got to include some form of a tax increase, not just on million dollar earners, ag
that's directly relevant today because i think the obama tax increases are more likely to lose revenue rather than to gain revenue. for example -- >> clayton: we know what happened with president george h.w. bush, read my lips, no new tax and ended up going forward with some of those tax increases to part of the negotiation and democrats didn't come forward with entitlement cuts that were enough to actually counteract some of those tax increases. could we be seeing the exact same thing today? >> well, yes. for example, one big tax increase in the obama tax increase package is the capital gains tax rate is going to go up 58% on the higher income taxpayers. and so now in the last 50 years, every time the capital gains tax rate has been raised, capital gains revenues have declined rather than increased. and every time the capital gains tax rate has been cut, capital gains revenues increased rather than declined. and cbo has gotten it wrong every time over 50 years. and so whether you're deal -- what you're doing with obama is not just the expiration of the bush tax cuts, but obama tax goe
austerity way too quickly. president obama is not asking for that much in taxes. it's worth getting a bit of perspective in here. you'll be shocked to know, we got a graph for that. here's what happens if we go over the cliff. you get more than $5 trillion in tax increases off the bat. and now here's what happens if we pass the sainted simpson bowles plan. you've heard of the plan. they have 2.6 trillion in tax increases. president obama's latest offer to john boehner has 1.2 trillion in taxes. that is half as much, less than half than simpson bowles, and less than a quarter of what is in -- simply going over the fiscal cliff. i think the tax increases are too little. they are what they are. and it's something to remember as we reach the edge and you hear a lot of complaints about the tax side of obama's offer. what he's asking for in terms of tax increases is not that radical, it's way less than if we don't reach a deal. contrary to what you may have heard, republicans want to raise taxes too. shocker, right? >> the superficial take on this, the argument between democrats and republicans
combined mpg c-max hybrid. >> julia: in four days several taxes tied to obama care will go in to effect including the medical device tax. healther found out it is about to impact every american. good to see you. >> that is right. this will pact every consumer. a new tax coming out. the tax will be put on devices that range from mri's to prosthetics and items in every doctor's office and veterinary offices. it will be passed alongg to consumers and manufacturers say it will result in job loss and stifle innovation and upon send jobs over seas. we went to one manufacturer. adm electronics that employs 19 people to ask them what it means for their industry. >> your company is about to be hit with a 2.3 percent tax on medical devices. >> it means more. it is on gross sales and that can hurt the number of people working for us and number of sales and increase the costs of our device. >> this is a family run business and been in business 40 years. how does it plea out for your company? >> we tried not to lose our employees because we are like family and the devastating impact we may not be ab
november 16. sign for republicans that mr. obama has not really been pushing that hard for a deal. >> we need presidential leadership on in the just taxing rich people. >> three words the president did not use. he did not use the word sequester and he didn't say "debt ceiling" either. he focused most of his remarx on preventing taxes from going up. there are also massive spending cuts coming. no idea how they will avert that. he also did not mention the debt ceiling. earlier they wanted lifting the debt ceiling included. now it's clear it's not in the short-term package that guarantees if they get a short-term deal here, we have major budget battles coming. >> the key to any good negotiation each side has to give up something. near and dear to their heart. what is it, as succinctly as you imagine, both sides have given up? >> both sides say the president started on threshold of tax cut of $250,000. negotiations with boehner he moved to $400,000. not if you have for boehner. he wanted it to be $1 million or more. that is something that can beer worked on. spending cuts the republicans wan
. dre move his business dealings over to ireland? because of their low corporate tax rate. big obama supporter. for all of you people wearing beats headphones that money is going through ireland now because of that problem. heather: okay. before we get off on dr. dre, let's talk a little bit what is going on now, 30 minutes from now, any moment, they're starting to arrive, we have boehner, pelosi, mcconnell, reid. they're on capitol hill. what can president obama offer that both sides can agree to. >> unfortunately for individual members of the republican house it is to their interest to let tax increases go into effect. that way they won't be viewed as having raised taxes. they can come in and easier to negotiate with them. what the president, what we are hearing about what the president is proposing though, is a small deal to get them through the fiscal cliff so that it avoids some of the implications, some of the more damaging implications for the economy. i don't think the fiscal cliff honestly is really going to have a huge impact. our housing market and labor market remained fi
to get a deal for weeks and says the real problem that republicans won't admit that obama won the election. >> on taxes, i know it's hard for republicans but the president ran on the platform. 250. no tax increase for people below but taxes for people above. he won. 60% of voters said they were for it in exit polls including republicans. >> wake of house speaker john boehner's plan "b" failure, all eyes turn to senate leaders harry reid and mitch mcconnell and whether they work out something short of $4 trillion grand bargain. last-minute stop gap. attending tax cut for people making $250,000 or less. and unemployment benefits for 2 million people who will lose the benefits a week after christmas. >> it is going to be a patch. because in four days we can't solve everything. >> yet, other republicans note the president short-term fix raises some taxes, yet punt spending cuts until next year. >> i would vote for revenue, including the tax rate hike though i don't like them to get, to save the country from becoming greece. i'm not going to set aside the $1.2 trillion in cuts. >>
trying to kill all the bush tax cuts. even mr. obama since 2005 when he was running as a senator. i don't know what your thoughts are about that. i would like to hear about the democrats voted to push us off the fiscal cliff. host: how you pick political heroes? caller: this is a republic and want to see going back to what it was. people are getting knocked off of unemployment in states because their rates went down. we go off this cliff, anybody on extended unemployment will not get a check in january. host: this is gary who chooses ben bernanke. beverly is next from vermont. caller: hello/ ? my choice is the teachers of america. i cannot believe that people did not speak up more for the teachers. they do they hurled job practically every day. host: why are they political heroes? caller: who do you think is going to run the country in the future? this is something that people do not understand. our future is our children. nobody seems to care. my choice is the teachers in america. the teachers that were killed the other day, they are true heroes. i cannot believe some of the idiots tha
taxes on those over a million dollars. president obama said i'm ready to have a new type of chain to consumer price index which -- impacts entitlement reform. the bipartisan national debt commission, simpson-bowles commission, said for every dollar of spending reduction, including the entitlement reform we immediate to have $1 in tax revenue. that's the principle compromise we have to have. so they are not far off. what we have to have is very simple. $4 trillion in debt reduction by this one-third, two-third division. because that gives us a sustainable debt to gdp ratio so the economy can go booming again. so i believe those two men have the economies of our nation best at heart and have to come a little closer and a little $500 billion sounds like a lot. $2.5 trillion. we have to do both to have a principled come prom nice quickly, both of you, i start with you, do you think something gets done in the next few days? >> i'm afraid say that i don't think that we will avoid the fiscal cliff. i think we will go over and be debating this again in january and also i hate to say that,
to a close, the head of aetna is back with us winding up for higher taxes in 2013 thanks to obama care. wait until you hear how high he thinks they could go. you're watching cnbc, first in business worldwide. stamps.com is the best. i don't have to leave my desk and get up and go to the post office anymore. [ male announcer ] with stamps.com you can print real u.s. postage for all your letters and packages. i have exactly the amount of postage i need, the instant i need it. can you print only stamps? no... first class. priority mail. certified. international. and the mail man picks it up. i don't leave the shop anymore. [ male announcer ] get a 4 week trial plus $100 in extras including postage and a digital scale. go to stamps.com/tv and never go to the post office again. >>> well, we're getting numbers in. turns out retailers saw the weakest holiday season since 2008 hurt by bad weather and more uncertainty about the rising tax increases that could come next year. we're wondering if the concerns will continue to keep shoppers from spending into 2013. >> let's ask our guests. ladies, thanks
. >> juliet: president obama continues to push for tax hikes on the rich. and france lost a bid to raise taxes and he want today raise to 75%. now, there weren't a lot of people he was focused on, really not that much money, he was going to raise, but the fact is he wanted the french judicial council, however, said it would have been excessive and unconstitutional. joining us-- >> sorry, dave. >> dave: and for tax foundation from the heritage foundation. >> juliet: good morning, curtis. >> good morning. >> dave: what's the deal here, the decision made is not unconstitutional, but bottom line, bad for the economy? i think we can learn from this? >> that's right, the court has bailed them out. and the tax increase, 75% rate was going to really damage the french economy. the french economy's already strugglingling and adding on the economy would be worse. >> i'm looking at it, expected to be a temporary two year measure and affect 1500 people and raise less than 661 million dollars. >> but the revenue we brought in, and what it would have done, it would have reduced the incentives, and working an
makers face a 2.3% excise tax starting in 2013 under obama care. it's been a head wind for stocks like boston scientific and striker. any kind of reprieve on that rate is going to be a positive for the sector. >> reporter: the biggest story of the year will be the buildout of the state health exchanges. the federal government has to build 32 of them for states opting out, along with a complex central data hub to manage eligibility and subsidy payments. it will be little short of a miracle to get the online insurance marketplaces up and running smoothly by october 1st, when millions of uninsured americans are supposed to start signing up for obama care coverage. >> so what rule will have the biggest impact on the health care industry and who will be most affected? joining us now, max nissan, corporate strategy reporter with business insider. max, you have done some work on this. what do investors need to know from your point of view? >> from my point of view, what you have coming in 2013 and 2014 is a rollout of all of the really big provisions of the health care act that we haven't see
, the most likely deal on the table seems to be that scaled-down proposal president obama suggested last fright. just to recap, extend tax cuts on household income under $250,000, that's 98% of americans. extend unemployment insurance. that's important. and likely extend the alternative minimum tax fix. but is this bared down plan something house republicans can really get behind? "outfront" tonight to answer that question, republican congressman tom mcclintock of california, a member of the house budget committee. mr. congressman, good to see you. could you back that scaled back plan to avoid going over the fiscal cliff? >> as i said all along, republicans don't want taxes to go up on anyone. if we have an impasse on january 1st, they go up on everyone. so at some point, i think that we republicans have got to realize that if we can't save everybody, we need to try to save as many people as possible. that's not advocating a tax increase. if a lifeguard sees ten people drowning off his beach and can only save nine of them, it doesn't mean he's drowned the tenth one. >> you're a strong, f
, president obama today called for congress to at least extend middle class tax cuts and unemployment benefits if no fiscal deal is reached. tax hike increase take effect january 1st. >>> the situation in the war-torn country is getting worse by the day. this weekend is proving him right. opposition activists say at least 397 people were killed across syria yesterday alone. if true, the deadliest day yet in almost two years in the civil war. the opizatiposition says more t 200 killed following a battle. >>> new england is getting a heavy dose of snow and freezing temperatures. boston is expected to get up to eight inches and the city's mayor has declared a snow emergency. neighboring rhode island is also getting pounded over a foot of snow has already fallen in some parts of that state. >>> some good news this morning about former president george h.w. bush. we're told he is improving and has been moved out of the intensive care unit of the houston hospital where he was being treated for an elevated fever. the 41st president has been in the hospital for more than a month now. >>> those are you
to prevent massive spending cuts and tax hikes from kicking in january 1st. president obama appeared today on nbc's "meet the press" and said the cuts in spending need to be fairly distributed. >> what i'm not willing to do is to have the entire burden of deficit reduction rest on the shoulders of seniors making students pay a higher student loan rates, ruining our capacity to invest in things like basic research that help our economy grow. >> in news overseas the bodies of the dead are being carried away in syria today. at least 397 people were killed saturday. that is the deadliest day so far in the 21-month long civil war. another 52 died today. the joint u.n. arab league envoy said the situation is rapidly deteriorating but that a solution is still possible. >>> in massachusetts boston's mayor lifted a snow emergency a little earlier today. more than a foot of snow fell on several towns across that state overnight. crews are clearing tons of snow in the gillette stadium now preparing for the patriots/dolphins game this afternoon. >>> keep it here as the clock ticks to the fiscal cliff.
not work out either. i think they are going to go over the cliff. the main objective obama had was not a fiscal one, it was political, to follow the victory in november by creating a civil war among republicans over the tax issue, which is exactly what happened. he said the 1 requirement i have for any deal is hiking tax rates. the reason that boehner was not able to do plan b was because it involved breaching the principle, which he did openly and said he was ready to do it. there were conservatives who would not do it. that is not a figure of the party that will be extremely hard to reconcile. if you can not, how you get a deal done before january 1? >> that is essentially the problem the president faced with boehner two years ago. last year. can he deliver? how can you negotiate with someone who cannot deliver on his side? >> you go to people for support, at least three of whom have lost their committee assignments. how can you expect them to come over to your way of thinking? >> they were crowing when john boehner went down, taking some delight, but that was pre- cleared by
't consummate with the american people. president obama just ran on a program of resisting some of the fundamental ways in which the republicans wanted to change medicare and raise taxes on people over $250,000. he won the election and people from the very red districts elected in the house simply have not adapted to that reality. >> let me go to jonathan chait and the primal scream and the election president obama won, but you wouldn't know this in washington. doesn't it feel sometimes like one side experienced maybe a different election? >> they did. for the house republicans, they don't have to worry about public opinion. the house republicans got fewer votes than house democrats, but the house republicans won anyway because the districts are drawn in such a way the vast majority of republicans are insulated from public opinion. this conversation we're having of what do the republicans have to do to win back middle america, that's not relevant to them. the only thing they have to worry about is a tea party challenger. that's the only way these guys are going to lose. that's p
on a particular deal. john boehner made a big concession allowing tax cuts to rise on income over a million dollars. president obama countered with a big concession and saying that that should be $400,000 and have fixes to social security on costs of living adjustments on that. what ended up happening? john boehner retreated their plan b that mike viquiera was talking about that was unable to pass and now we are in the stalemate we are in now. we were closer than before. >> you touch on a good point. that's lost now in the media. we are going-over the cliff. last week they are $450 billion away from a deal. that's less than 1% of the federal spending over the next decade. in d.c. terms, 400 billion seems like a lot. that's a drop in the bucket in d.c. terms. it's amazing that small of a number killed a deal. >> if you are buying a house or a car and one person said look, i'm going at $1 billion. usually split the difference and do the deal. this time around, that didn't happen. neither was hoping for this. if house republicans couldn't go for that million dollar threshold, they are not goin
of those bush tax rates into the future and would turn off the sequester by switching defense cuts over to domestic programs. democrats, of course have no intention of doing that. especially after president obama won the election. senate democratic leadership aide tells me that will remains a 50/50 chance we will get a mini deal temporary extension of tax cuts under $250,000 before the january 1 deadline when we would go over the cliff. will are no assurances of that. a white house official told me as president obama prepares to fly back to conduct and participate in the negotiations at the end, there has been no progress over the holiday weekend. michelle, i'm afraid that people who are looking for a deal and looking for a deal by december 31, all hope is not lost. it is not looking good at the moment. >> let's go back to this hitting the debt ceiling on monday. we learned of this because treasury secretary tim good night mother sent a letter to the honorable harry reid majority leader. and that's where he outline it is fact that in three business days, the summit government is going t
number one is avoiding the fiscal cliff. >> unless the president obama and congress can reach a deal by the new year, tax increases and spending cuts will automatically take effect. >> and the clock is ticking. >>> of course, when we look back at this year, president obama's re-election was one of the biggest political stories of the year. all others, you could say, they pealed in comparison. >> with the first of our year-enders, here's abc's karen travers. >> reporter: to win a second term, president obama had to overcome a well funded opponent, a struggling economy, and voters' doubts that he had the right agenda to turn the nation around. [ chanting ] >> all: four more years! >> reporter: and after a roller coaster season, he got them. mitt romney may have started off at the frontrunner, but to win the republican nomination, he had to fend off some feisty challengers. >> he's the worst republican in the country to put up against barack obama. >> the odds are very high i'm going to be the nominee. >> reporter: and overcome some self-inflicted wounds. >> i like being able to fire pe
. the bush era tax cuts will expire at the end of this year. obama was elected with a surplus of about 3 million votes. he won the election. he campaigned on this issue. again, the speaker can't take yes for an answer. the president has presented to him something that would prevent us from going over the cliff. it was in response to something the speaker gave to the president himself, but, again, i guess with the dysfunctional republican caucus in the house even the speaker can't tell what he's going to do because he backed off even his own proposal. mr. president, the house, we hear this so often, is controlled by the reap warnings and we acknowledge that. i would be most happy to move forward on something that senator mcconnell said they wouldn't filibuster over here that he would support and that boehner would support, if it were reasonable, but right now we haven't heard anything. i don't know, and it's none of my business, i guess, although i am very serious, if the speaker and the majority leader, the republican leader over here are even talking. i mean, what's going on here? mr. p
. >>> in the developing fiscal cliff stalemate, president obama is holding a summit at the white house with congressional leaders later on today. >> so far, republicans have rejected any new taxes even those proposed by house speaker john boehner on people earning over a million dollars. the senate is in session on capitol hill and house speerk barren has called lawmakers back into session sunday night at 6:30. that only leaves just over 24 hours to come up with a deal. republican and democratic leaders in the senate continue to blame the other side. >> i guess w dysfunctional republican caucus in the house, even the speaker can't tell what they're going to do. he backed off of even his own proposal. >> republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> we want to know your thoughts on all of this. what do you think about congress not reaching a deal on the fiscal cliff. do you think it is possible that a compromise will be reached before the deadline. you can share your thoughts and comments on facebook, o
before the fiscal cliff hits on new year's day and with it, more than $600 million in tax hikes and spending cuts. in a last bid for a deal, president obama stated his terms face-to-face to top republicans and democrats. >> congressional leaders arrive ted white house this afternoon for their first group meeting with the president since november 16th. vice president biden and treasury secretary timothy geithner also attend. but there was little to suggest the makings of an 11th hour bargain. a source familiar with the meeting told the newshour its president is sticking with his offer from last friday. it included keeping the bush era tax break force the middle class but raising tax rates on incomes over 250,000 dollars a year. president also wants to extend unemployment benefits for some 2 million americans who will lose them in the new year. and a proposal would delay any spending cuts. the president asked for an up or down vote on his plan unless there is a counter proposal that will pass both the house and senate. a little more than an hour after the meeting began, several pa
aand shift it in 20 12 to avoid massuv tax increases in 2013. capitol curnly 14 -- 15. it is stocks and bonds and currently at 15 percent and president obama wants to raise it to 39 percent in >> yes, it will go back up to 39 percent andine that doesn't tell the full story. the obama care surcharge. it will rise up to 43.4 percent. it is a massive from year to year and explains why companies and ceo's are accelerating what does it mean for people going forward. we heard apple trying to bring a few job back to the united states. will this further push companies out of the united states? >> well, it will pub them out and do something worse. purpose of difdeppeds are corporations that are long on cash and distribute it to the shareholders can get it to the companies of tomorrow and don't have the money to grow and innovate . you are seeing it with las vegas sands. they announced a pay out and moved it up so they can save three and 31 million in taxes. you can see it with win-resorts. special dev dend so that steve wyn saved 21 million and larry elison third richardson accel brated difd
million and the tax rate goes to 55%. the capital gains tax rate, of course, is expected to increase from 20 to 30%. there's brand-new 3.9% medicare tax on high wage earners and a tax for wealthy donations. primarily between house republicans and the obama white house in the senate. but a survey done by northern trust of high net worth individuals' priorities found 44% saying their top priority for the country is economic growth and reducing unemployment versus 19% for reducing the federal budget deficit. another 15% said they wanted to see an end to gridlock. good luck. now, as far as their own wealth preservation strategies. that same survey found high net worth persons, those with $5 million or more in assets, obviously much more proactive in anticipating the tax consequences of going over the cliff than those with $1 million or less in assets. simon? >> okay, hampton, busy days. hampton pearson there in washington. straight ahead, a looming port strike that could cost the u.s. economy billions of dollars. the mayor of houston will join us live to tell us how this strike will affect he
, president obama and the top lawmakers meet today at the white house on the fiscal cliff. any compromise is expected to include an extension of the middle class tax cuts with increased rates at upper incomes. spending cuts could also be canceled. ahead of those talks, plenty of blame is being spread around already. >> john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than keeping the nation on firm financial footing. >> hopefully there's time for an agreement of some kind. >> speaker john boehner called the house back into session for a highly unusual sunday evening session just in case. >>> an unexpected consequence of the fiscal cliff stalemate could mean sticker shock at your grocery store. milk prices could soon spike to $8 a gallon. wow. congress has been so bogged down with the fiscal cliff, the farm bill is still on the table. if congress does not pass it, dairy subsidies would immediately end on january 1, and those subsidies have been keeping milk prices low for 63 years. >>> the price of curbside parking in chicago is going up january 1. parking meters will charge $
, but there still isn't the substance of an agreement. >> the mechanics, i mean, what we have -- on the obama side, you have an election that pretty much, you know, they took as a mandate, if you will, where, you know, the very issue of taxes was sort of legislative, and the americans basically said they agreed with the president, saying that taxes need to rise on the wealthy. and then you have the right wing of the republican party who won also by wide margins in many deeply conservative districts. and they think they have a mandate. so in a way, it's like the two mandates are canceling each other out. they each think that they are -- and that is why we're frozen. i don't know if it's been that way -- i don't know if the mechanics have been such that it has been so polarized to the point where it's been paralyzing. >> where they feel like they've each won. >> it doesn't baffle me, it sort of angers me is that the conservative republicans who won by overwhelming margins in their districts, the president's vote in state after state in the electoral college, it used to be in politics that there was
tax. more american energy means more american jobs. energy projects in the united states we have held back by federal obstacle of all kinds. the keystone xl pipeline has been hanging in the balance because president obama has been unwilling to move forward on what should have been an easy decision. republicans hope to work across the aisle to solve these other challenges facing america. in the next few days leaders have important responsibilities to work together to do just that. unless congress and the president act immediately, every american will be forced to pay for the largest tax hike in our nation's history on january the first. the federal government and defense workers will undergo across the board budgetary cuts. these are the cuts that president obama promised during the campaign would never take effect. we can do this in a much smarter way. economists have continually warned that going over the fiscal cliff will lead to a devastating job losses at a time when american families and small business owners are still struggling to get back on their feet. non-partisan cbo says e
. back to our top story. all eyes on washington where president obama will meet with congressional leaders to make one more attempt to craft a deal to avert looming tax hikes and spending cuts. with most of the hoist members on vacation until sunday night, no plan in sight. how much can actually be accomplished. susan fereccio joins us now. chief congressional correspondent for the "washington examiner". we're seeing dianne feinstein there on the senate floor. it is vacant on the house side. so in truth how much is really going to get done? >> well, gregg, a lot of this negotiations are really taking place between the leadership levels right now. we don't really have to worry about what is happening on the house floor. it's about what is going on at the white house. now, the president today is going to meet with congressional leaders from both parties, both chambers. they will sit down. they will talk about a potential deal. the president might offer something that maybe the republicans could go for. it wouldn't be a sweeping deal. gregg: like what? >> might be something smaller. w
. the tax burden overall would be about the same. and the deficit if with starts to wind down. the problem is president obama has also presided over a french- style growth rates of 2% per year. is not the worst of jamee have been been in the post world war era. -- this is not the worst jam. reagan had the economy growing at 6%. whereas mr. obama, to%. the downside has been the notion of accepting a much slower broken. longer-term, the pyramid of our society is getting more like a column, because we're having more and more older people -- people are living older and we can raise the retirement age. even with that we will have a larger elderly population to take care of. 2% growth becomes very difficult to maintain our commitments to the elderly. if you think it's a great idea if you are 40 right now and it actually happens, you will have a lot of tears. host: greg in north carolina, independence, for peter morici. caller: dr. morici, i guess my question is pretty simple. i just want to know, i noticed that republicans and democrats squabble about a lot of stuff, they are partisan about a lo
trillion national debt. it's expected to go up over $22 trillion before president obama leaves office. fact number two, washington's problem is not revenue. it's uncontrolled spending. fact number three, in less than 14 hours, automatic tax hikes will give washington more money to spend. fact number four, the nonpartisan congressional budget office says these automatic tax hikes threaten to put us back into another recession. fact number five, the house has done its job to avoid this crisis by passing a bipartisan bill to stop the tax hikes. fact number six, the senate, with the president's approval, has refused to take up this bill. and fact number seven, we've done our job in the house. it's time for the senate to do their job before the clock strikes midnight. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. for what purpose does the gentleman from new york rise? >> to address the house for one minute. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. mr. higgins: mr. speaker, at midnight tonight the budget control act of 2011 and sequestration will trigger spending cut
the talks with president obama and speaker boehner athat they were looking at the grand bargain that would include tax increases and changes to social security, changes to medicare, cuts in defense spending potentially as well. we're talking $3 to $4 trillion in changes over years. now it's going to be modest and that may include changes to the tax code. but they're going to have to come back in 2013 no matter what and talk about changes in med sare and social security and address the debt ceiling as well. host: these are two comments and they reflect the frustration in the country. how is the bickering back and forth solving anything fplgt all government spending should be on the table for spending reform. and the other viewer says obama and the other i had yots until the white house are doing what they do best, talk. guest: right after the election we heard them say the election is behind us, we can put down our swords and get down to doing the country's business. that evaporated within days and now we are back to where we were in the summer of 2011 where everyone is back in their corner
, trying to come up with income tax thresholds, and if they don't come up with something, again, that wedge gets driven further and obama can sit in the cat bird's seat and blame, blame, blame republicans for their obstructionism. >> dave: quickly, you think a deal gets done, a threshold say around a half million dollars, unemployment gets extended and very little cuts, is that basically what you think happens here? >> i think that's right. i think that's the basic outline and then what the house republican take away, well, we'll deal with the tough issues later, always been there. >> dave: kick the can down the road. >> move on. >> juliet: let's go to the story that we've been covering here shall the hobby lobby story, this is a faith-based business and they decided they're going to risk paying potential fines up to 1.3 million dollars a day because they're refusing to provide the morning after pill to employees, it does not go with their beliefs. what do you make of that story? >> and by the way my christmas tree came from hobby lobby and i think it's incumbent upon every conservative who
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